The participants in the discussions were asked to consider the questions individually and share thoughts with others. We were also asked not to judge or criticize a person's response, nor declare the person's response wrong (if doctrinally very wrong, then gently suggest another way to look at the matter). We are all learning and will hopefully continue to do so until we are translated. Look to the Holy Spirit for final say.
July Study Moderator's Answers -- Questions 1 and 2
1. Ezekiel
3:1-20 - Do you believe in the above statement? How do you reconcile the
popular saying “Once saved always saved”? in reference to the second half
of verse 20?
-Important to understand context. And the context of this chapter in Ezekiel is
two-fold. But first, a brief background on the prophet Ezekiel and his mission:
a prophet to the exiled Jewish people now living in Babylonia along the river
Chebar in a settlement called Tel-abib. These Jews were those who had been
captured and taken from Judah when the Babylonian armies under King
Nebuchadnezzer had laid siege on Judah and Jerusalem, destroying much of what
was familiar.
The
context of the Jewish culture and belief system during that era still had
elements of the Mosaic law structure, however, given their now foreign
surroundings, keeping kosher so to speak, i.e., strict adherence to the
original ceremonial system has been altered. Yet, for many who survived the
Babylonian conquest, they were torn as to why their Protector God subjected
them to such extreme circumstances. Some held to the tradition that said if you
‘faithfully’ obey the ten commandments and the body of laws contained in the
Old Covenant, you could consider yourself a righteous person. The legal system
promised blessings for obedience. (similar to what some Christians believe
today) Many would begin to worship the blessings and nationalistic identity
instead of Elohim Yahweh. They worshiped Gentile gods and often mixed such
worship practices with those iterated in the Law of Moses. They’re
unfaithfulness and rejection of Yahweh led to God’s punishment of Israel and
Judah at the hands of the Assyrians and Babylonians – foreign empires that God
used as a rod - as the covenant warned against. (see Deuteronomy 27 and 28)
Ezekiel’s prophetic ministry was both a “forth-telling” and a “foretelling” of
messages from the LORD of hosts to the exiled Jews. Where we are in the third
chapter, Ezekiel has been charged by God with forth-telling the many sins that
led up to the Jewish defeat and exile. Ezekiel had lost his wife some time
before this mission, yet God warned, commanded Ezekiel not to mourn for her, as
a way of showing what God’s relationship with Israel and Judah had become,
i.e., so broken that God no longer mourned for His people as they experienced
the consequences of their rebellion. In his humanity, Ezekiel was very
challenged in this complex role. As you see when you read verses 1-21 of chapter
3. He was overwhelmed in contemplating what His God was calling him to (v. 15),
the way He called him, and how this mission was to happen. It was a lot.
So, he just sat there among the residents of Tel-abib for seven days stunned,
paralyzed by the emotional and psychological rollercoaster he was on. Until God
arouses him once again with the words beginning in verse 17 where He frankly
and graphically explains what God is calling him to do.
As noted above, the “righteousness” was the perceived “right” keeping of the
Ten Commandments and all of the Law – a perfect standard which, in reality,
was one that no one could achieve, yet, keeping those that they did keep
gave them a feeling of being right before God. (see Jesus’ encounter with
the rich young ruler who was certain of his righteousness in keeping of some of
the commandments – Matt. 16:19-22; Mark 10:17-22; Luke 18:18-23. Also see
Jesus’ statement on righteousness – Matthew 5:19-20.) Confirmation of their
perceived righteousness was when God would bless them with a good harvest,
rain, children, etc. and forgive them their misdeeds. To turn from their “righteousness”
was intentionally breaking the laws and commands. The role of a prophet or
priest was that of speaking God’s truth to the offender or “telling forth”,
admonishing them to repent and return to God’s ways. Their repentance could
bring forgiveness from God and reposition them from law breaker to law keeper.
However, the Mosaic Law could not give them eternal life (Prov. 19:16 as do
other passages notes that obedience to God gives us a good life and may bless
us with a long life (“so that it may go well with you”). but eternal life was
not promised under the law, as Paul shows in Romans 7 and Galatians 3:21, but
it was to act as a disciplinarian
until Christ came.
And so with that backdrop we come to verses 18-20. God instructs Ezekiel on
admonishing the ‘righteous’ – that a prophet or priest or anyone called to
witness to others on God’s account who fails to warn a ‘righteous’ person about
their sin, and they die/perish as a result, then the person – whether it be
prophet, priest, or one who has been given the commandment to love one another
– that person shall be accountable for the death of the ‘righteous’ person.
The
righteous person – one who perceives him/herself to be right because of being a
standard-keeping, legally responsible in their own eyes child of God, does not
simply by the term ‘righteous’ has received the guarantee of eternal life with
Christ. Jesus says in Matthew 7 such persons would come to Him in the judgment
and say, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of
heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On
that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 Then
I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you who behave
lawlessly.” Such a person may do “works”, even good works, and justify those
works as deserving of salvation, but the One who reads hearts will determine if
there are works of faith- works that emanate from a heart full of desire to
serve their Heavenly Father and that are submitted to Him and His will. So it
is important to read the context of some passages to identify what is the
righteousness that is being claimed compared to a saving faith. No such thing
as “saving works”.
2. Does
Genesis 22:12 contradict God’s omniscience – His all-knowing ability?
So this is one with which I struggled for years. Some Bible scholars explain
this by saying that God chose not to know what Abraham was going to do. Which
sounded a little sketchy, but for a minute it sounded good since God is
powerful. Some others say that of course God knew, but Abraham did not know,
and so God was really saying that “now you, Abraham, know that you fear
God…”. That sounded a little more reasonable, but there were still gaps in that
premise because a reader would have to assume that God switched the
awareness from Himself to Abraham. Even though it was thin ground I tried to
stand on that one and it just did not set well with me. Like walking across a
floor with a partially rotted subfloor, I anticipated that under a brighter
light that explanation would also fail.
But God! I was listening to a minister and reading and re-reading the
passage a few times. Notice verses 10-12: “10 Then
Abraham reached out his hand and took the knife to kill his son. 11 But the Angel of the Lord called
to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!” And he said, “Here I
am.” 12 He said, “Do not lay your hand on the boy
or do anything to him, for now I know that you fear God, since you have not
withheld your son, your only son, from me.”
The Angel that God had appointed for this event is the one who did not
have foreknowledge, was not all-knowing. It was he who did not know what the
outcome of Abraham’s obedience would be; compare verses 1-2 where God speaks
directly to Abraham. Further along the chapter beginning at verse 15, we see
the same Angel speaking and identifying at that juncture that he was repeating
what the Lord had
instructed him post-sacrifice; verse 15 says that the Angel of the Lord called to Abraham from heaven, this time,
adding the phrase “says/declares (KJV “saith”) the Lord … Therefore,
the answer is “no” for the reasons noted above. Plus, doesn’t understanding
this truth reaffirm your faith in the Lord’s omniscience and sovereignty?!!
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